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Christmas Meeting, 18 December 2014

This will be in the upstairs room of the One Tun on Saffron Hill (nearest tube station: Farringdon), since the usual Melton Mowbray cellar bar venue has been booked for some other party.

When and Where?

The "London Group", "London Circle" or just "First Thursday" open sf/fan pub meetings in London, a continuing tradition since 1946, take place on the First Thursday evening of each month. Exceptions are noted below. Meetings run from 4pm or 5pm when people begin to arrive, and continue until closing time at 11pm or later. All are welcome.

Since January 2006 the regular venue is the cellar bar of the Melton Mowbray pub, which opens at 6pm; early birds can use the ground-floor bar before then.

The Melton Mowbray is on Holborn, not far from Chancery Lane tube station. Address: 18 Holborn, London, EC1N 2LE; phone 020 7405 7077. Paul Treadaway says: "The cellar bar will fit 100 people. It's a Fullers 'Pie and Ale House', so the beer is all Fullers [...] and the food menu funnily enough has several different kinds of pie, along with various non-pie options. Food is served until 8pm, so arrive before then if you want to eat." Warning: the cellar bar and its entrance are easy to miss if you're new to the pub.

To get there by London Underground: Take the Central Line to Chancery Lane Station, leave the station using Exit 3: High Holborn (South Side) and continue east along the south side of Holborn for about 100 yards until you find the Melton Mowbray on your right.

    Further Ahead – omits monthly meetings
  • 14-15 February 2015 • Picocon 32, Imperial College
  • 14-15 March 2015 • Futurefest, Vinopolis, SE1 9BU
  • 3-6 April 2015 • Dysprosium (Eastercon), Heathrow.
  • 7-9 August 2015 • Nine Worlds Geekfest, Heathrow

Fallback Venue

Should the Melton Mowbray be closed or otherwise unavailable, the meeting moves to whatever nearby pub can accommodate us. The Sir Christopher Hatton, used for the Christmas 2005 meeting when it was The Goose, is one possibility. Alternatively, Paul Treadaway suggests the 1974-1987 venue The One Tun, on Saffron Hill. "The function room is no longer full of Masons, there's a new extension and garden terrace, and the former homophobic landlord is presumably dead by now, also a lot of people should remember how to get there, and it's quite close if anything should go wrong with the Melton Mowbray." The nearest tube stations are Farringdon (closest), Chancery Lane and Barbican.

What Are the Rules?

The meetings are open to all. Informality prevails. There are no talks or events, just a lot of people drinking and chattering. On first Thursdays, sf fans are present from 5pm or even earlier. If nervous, look for reprobates fingering proofs of British SF Association publications or handing out sinister sheets of paper – convention flyers or fanzines.

If you prefer more structured events, centred on a talk, panel or interview, try the monthly BSFA meetings held on the fourth Wednesday of each month except for December.

Exceptions to the First-Thursday schedule

Roger Robinson is the "owner" of the meeting as far as the Melton Mowbray is concerned, and in December 2013 he booked the cellar bar for First Thursdays throughout 2014.

Christmas Meeting – a second gathering each December, traditionally on the Thursday before Christmas Eve but sometimes a week earlier for greater general convenience. Someone needs to inform the pub well in advance. For 2014, the date is 18 December, the usual pub venue is unavailable and the meeting will be in The One Tun: see top of page..

New Year – if 1 January (the UK New Year's bank holiday) is a Thursday, the January meeting is displaced to 8 January. This last happened in 2009 and will happen again in 2015.

Maundy Thursday – the London meeting happens as usual but is likely to be somewhat depleted if the annual UK Easter SF Convention (Eastercon) is far from London.

Extra Meetings may be declared at more or less any time by anyone who can persuade enough people to turn up – to meet some sf celebrity passing briefly through London, for example. It would be wise to check with the pub in advance. The most recent such meeting was on Thursday 21 August 2014 for the benefit of overseas visitors to the London Worldcon.

Other London Meetings

Regular/Annual Events in London

British SF Association (BSFA) Open Meetings take place on the fourth Wednesday of the month (subject to change or cancellation if this clashes with other events or public holidays – by default there's no December meeting). Meetings nominally begin at 7pm, with fans likely to be present from 5pm onward. Non-BSFA members are welcome; there is no admission fee. Speakers are announced on the BSFA site and/or BSFA News Weblog, and published – when announcement timing permits – in the current Ansible.

BSFA Venue. From August 2013 until further notice, the meetings are in at The Artillery Arms, 102 Bunhill Row, London, EC1Y 8ND. Pub details here. The current organizer and speaker-to-pub is Audrey Taylor.

British Fantasy Society Open Meetings are held every few months – see their website for the latest information (check frequently since announcements are often at short notice). All are welcome. These meetings run from 6pm (for an official 7:30pm start time). Locations vary. A popular recent choice is The Mug House, under London Bridge.

The Broken Drummers (Discworld) – "We meet on the first Monday of each month at The Monkey Puzzle, 30 Southwick Street, Sussex Gardens, W2 1JQ. Nearest stations Paddington and Edgeware Road." Free to all; official start 7pm but some arrive earlier. These meetings are not listed in the calendar at top right of this page.

City Illiterates meetings are held every Friday – again, not public holidays etc; Good Friday is the obvious example – "in the Windmill Public House in Mill Street (just south of Oxford Circus, off Conduit Street which is off Regent Street) ... usually there are people there from around 18.00 to around 19.30 ... we're usually in the ground floor back room," writes Brian Ameringen. All welcome, but note that it's a very small and informal gathering, much less obvious than the first-Thursday crowd. These meetings are not listed in the calendar at top right of this page.

Filk Meetings, which seem to be irregular, are documented at Rafe Culpin's website: filk.co.uk. These meetings are not listed in the calendar at top right of this page.

London Fortean Society meetings – see link. These meetings are not listed in the calendar at top right of this page, except occasionally by special request or whim.

London Sci-Fi Pub Meet – I didn't hear of this one until 2011 (and its habitués had apparently never heard of the various older meetings), but it seems to have been going for a while as a Saturday afternoon/evening event, monthly at The Shakespeare's Head, Holborn. See title link for dates. These meetings are not listed in the calendar at top right of this page.

London Skeptics in the Pub: UK sceptical movement meetings (there is or was some overlap with sf fandom) are regularly held in London. Dates and times may vary: always check their website. As of July 2010 the current London venue is The Monarch Bar, 40-42 Chalk Farm Road, Camden, London, NW1 8BG. Non-sceptics are welcome; there is a small admission fee. The Skeptic website events page also lists similar meetings in other cities. • Pub details These meetings are not listed in the calendar at top right of this page.

ZZ9 (Hitchhiker's Guide) currently has London pub meetings on the third Wednesday of the month – pub details here, general events diary here.

History of London SF Meetings

Much of the older historical information above is taken from Rob Hansen's history of British fandom, Then.